Buzz Aldrin also fixed a short circuit aboard the eagle lander with a ball point pen. Had he not done that, they would have been left stranded on the moon. It would have been a total disaster.
Don’t forget the crucial role that ductape played in saving the Apollo 13 astronauts. They used ductape to make the LEM’s incompatible CO2 scrubbers work with the command module’s hardware.
How much do you think the rover weighs. Dry cell batteries, motor, drive train, no air metal tires, 200 lb plus? Stuck on the side of the lander as NASA claims. and the lander with one rocket booster in the middle of it. and they landed it with the center of gravity off to one side. Hard to believe if you ask me. 1969.
You’d still need to actualy launch a rocket that can reatch the moon.
You’d still need to put the 3 men in that rocket.
As there are lots of peoples able to follow you with telescopes, you actualy need to travel to the moon. Enter lunar orbit and come back. 10′s of 1000′s of amateurs all around the planet did follow each flights from beggining to end.
You just can’t fake the re-entry and touch down.
You’d need very extensive, and secret, studios.
You’d then need to pay crack studio teams and top knotchg actors. You’d need to pay them some prety generous extra to ensure secrecy.
Next, you need to do the special effects. In that time, special effects where exedingly dostly AND time consuming.
Here, again, the special effect specialists need some extra pay to ensure secrecy.
All in all, it would have been more dificult and cost a LOT more (probably about 10 times more…) to fake the moon missions than to actualy go to the moon, perform the landings and ground exploration and come back.
Hahahaaa! This one made my day (or probably even my year)…yet another stupid idiot questions the authenticity of one of Mankind’s greatest achievements. A suggestion; maybe you should go kill yourself right now and save the world the hassle of dealing with your equally mindless progeny in the future. Now THAT would be the best thing that you could possibly do for the rest of Mankind. Yeeeaaahhh!!!!
Donovan :How much do you think the rover weighs. Dry cell batteries, motor, drive train, no air metal tires, 200 lb plus? Stuck on the side of the lander as NASA claims. and the lander with one rocket booster in the middle of it. and they landed it with the center of gravity off to one side. Hard to believe if you ask me. 1969.
@Donovan: the motor’s on little joints called gymbals, which means it can point in any direction to balance the LM. And trust me, they balanced that rover (which weighed one-sixth of the 200 lbs. on the moon, which I keep telling folks is NOT Main Street) with instruments, tools, and those seismic charges (boom!). Them astronauts gots big ones, of brass, for sure. They’re so brassy, they can drop sixty million dollars worth of LM in on a landing site, BY HAND, BY EYE. I’m told it’s actually easier than a night carrier landing….
@Donovan
what’s your point?
and are you really trying to suggest that the team that was able to put all that other stuff together – including the saturn five rocket, STILL humanity’s most complex machine that’s not actually made of microscopic silicon – couldn’t figure out a simple thing such as “duhh, where’s teh center of gravidee, where shud we put d’uvva few 100 lbs of stuff we need inda landa ta balanss agenst the rover, how shud we direct da rokit frust?”. 200lbs is very light for any kind of vehicle too… lets say 1 and a half astronauts, or just one with their suit on?
Also, moron: moon gravity. Sure, meaningless when thrusting thru space, but makes your life easier on takeoff and landing re: balance and amount of fuel needed.
Troll intelligence fail, but possibly intent successful
there ALWAYS has to be a moron out there who comes out with that idiotic comment about the moon landings being fake or filmed on a sound stage. please say something intelligent or shut the @#$%^ up!
Why? Because sunlight couldn’t possibly be bouncing off of the bright white dirt immediately behind and next to the metal tire, lighting it up?
Light on the moon works exactly the same as light on the Earth, minus the glow of the sky or atmospheric effects like mist or wavy desert air. It bounces all over the place, just like it does here.
Nothing even as mysterious as the light being reflected around. Look at the line of the wheel vs. the line of the body. The front of the wheel is turned in toward the body, so that the back edge of the wheel is turned toward us–and the light–not parallel with the back of the LRV. (Maybe to make it easier to work on the thing?)
Yeah, and with a decent high powered telescope on a clear night you can actually see all the fake rover tracks that we planted on the moon surface for all the fake moon landings that we faked over and over just to cover our tracks and prove that it was all for real…. and not fake.
@Donovan
haha really? how much do you think a 200 lb vehicle weighs on the moon? NASA probably figured they would need to balance it too, but who knows…they could just be bad story tellers
@isi
Just a guess, but probably to prevent dust or small rocks from getting thrown up and into the equipment at the back of the rover. The wire mesh tires are, at least to some extent, made for grip and must therefore be able to sling a considerable amount of dust around (As I believe is visible in some of the “fake” footage taken in the “sound studio”…)
RogerThePunk :
Yeah, and with a decent high powered telescope on a clear night you can actually see all the fake rover tracks that we planted on the moon surface for all the fake moon landings that we faked over and over just to cover our tracks and prove that it was all for real…. and not fake.
There’s no telescope either on Earth or in our orbit that can resolve those things. Only recently did we get a robotic imager to the Moon that could actually image Apollo’s landing site, lunar rover tracks, etc.
@Blacktape
I thought Mars was a hoax and that it was really a big goiter that flew into outer space and got stuck there. Just ask Bart Sibrel, he’s a reliable source… (NOT)
Nobody had the guts, yet. Or not recorded at least.
Mach -1 flyby past the Air Boss was accomplished on movie, but nobody ever tried night carrier landing while boozed, not even on comedy. Again not to interwebs notice.
There are rumors that some Astronauts took off in the Shuttle while s***faced, though. I know I would if I was strapped to a controlled small-nuclear-blast amount of fuel.
On the other hand, Navy pilots train so hard that they outta be able to do it, red-nosed or not.
Now, that other kludge, the *air filter* is also here on this site, somewhere. It was linked it to a site that contained reports of Astronauts using duct tape practically everywhere.
From removing moon dust, so a second piece of tape would stick, to anchoring loose food bags inside the ship, they used it plenty of times. It was included on their carry-on bags, and explicitly included in the hand luggage instructions, after they found plenty of uses for it on the previous occasions. It was then mandatory to carry a 25ft roll of tape along.
Now, that fender-map is in a museum, with good reason. I vote for a permanent list of EPIC KLUDGES.
1- Apolo-13 air filter. Both real and fictional.
2- Alien 8th passenger’s flamethrower, grenade launcher, automatic rifle, all rolled into one with duct tape. Fictional, of course. But it could be real too.
3- Behind Enemy Lines. Re-activating the homing beacon on your ejected seat, and only you can do it? FTW. Fictional. Probably real, ask the Navy.
4- Rambo, a red hot knife (not), a burning stick, and the contents of a 7.62mm NATO round. Cauterizing FTW. Fictional.
5- Myles Dyson, Terminator 2. Complete bandage of bullet wound using just Dyson’s clothes and a towel (perhaps? what else?)
Houston we had a problem.
Bad ass.
Buzz Aldrin also fixed a short circuit aboard the eagle lander with a ball point pen. Had he not done that, they would have been left stranded on the moon. It would have been a total disaster.
Those guys had nerves of steel.
Don’t forget the crucial role that ductape played in saving the Apollo 13 astronauts. They used ductape to make the LEM’s incompatible CO2 scrubbers work with the command module’s hardware.
How much do you think the rover weighs. Dry cell batteries, motor, drive train, no air metal tires, 200 lb plus? Stuck on the side of the lander as NASA claims. and the lander with one rocket booster in the middle of it. and they landed it with the center of gravity off to one side. Hard to believe if you ask me. 1969.
With all the Duct Tape used by NASA, you know there had to be a Red Neck or two mixed in with all those engineers.
Why isn’t this tagged ‘duct tape’?
the moon landings were fake.
Let see that…
You’d still need to actualy launch a rocket that can reatch the moon.
You’d still need to put the 3 men in that rocket.
As there are lots of peoples able to follow you with telescopes, you actualy need to travel to the moon. Enter lunar orbit and come back. 10′s of 1000′s of amateurs all around the planet did follow each flights from beggining to end.
You just can’t fake the re-entry and touch down.
You’d need very extensive, and secret, studios.
You’d then need to pay crack studio teams and top knotchg actors. You’d need to pay them some prety generous extra to ensure secrecy.
Next, you need to do the special effects. In that time, special effects where exedingly dostly AND time consuming.
Here, again, the special effect specialists need some extra pay to ensure secrecy.
All in all, it would have been more dificult and cost a LOT more (probably about 10 times more…) to fake the moon missions than to actualy go to the moon, perform the landings and ground exploration and come back.
Hahahaaa! This one made my day (or probably even my year)…yet another stupid idiot questions the authenticity of one of Mankind’s greatest achievements. A suggestion; maybe you should go kill yourself right now and save the world the hassle of dealing with your equally mindless progeny in the future. Now THAT would be the best thing that you could possibly do for the rest of Mankind. Yeeeaaahhh!!!!
Hey, at least it’s not tagged ductape, or even worse, duck tape.
@Donovan: the motor’s on little joints called gymbals, which means it can point in any direction to balance the LM. And trust me, they balanced that rover (which weighed one-sixth of the 200 lbs. on the moon, which I keep telling folks is NOT Main Street) with instruments, tools, and those seismic charges (boom!). Them astronauts gots big ones, of brass, for sure. They’re so brassy, they can drop sixty million dollars worth of LM in on a landing site, BY HAND, BY EYE. I’m told it’s actually easier than a night carrier landing….
I dug this video out of an old Nasa archive a while back. Here it is in 2 parts.
@Donovan
what’s your point?
and are you really trying to suggest that the team that was able to put all that other stuff together – including the saturn five rocket, STILL humanity’s most complex machine that’s not actually made of microscopic silicon – couldn’t figure out a simple thing such as “duhh, where’s teh center of gravidee, where shud we put d’uvva few 100 lbs of stuff we need inda landa ta balanss agenst the rover, how shud we direct da rokit frust?”. 200lbs is very light for any kind of vehicle too… lets say 1 and a half astronauts, or just one with their suit on?
Also, moron: moon gravity. Sure, meaningless when thrusting thru space, but makes your life easier on takeoff and landing re: balance and amount of fuel needed.
Troll intelligence fail, but possibly intent successful
Arguing on the internet?
Life Fail.
duct tape was used in a lot of famous historical events. the first nuclear bomb ever made (a test in new mexico) had duct tape all over it.
@steven
You are fake.
“No one will ever notice.. They don’t have to know you were drunk.”
this is photoshoped. their ain’t no light at the rear of the buggey, so their should not be on the back of the tire either.
To Hugo:
The tire is a wire Mesh and lets light trough…
@steven
there ALWAYS has to be a moron out there who comes out with that idiotic comment about the moon landings being fake or filmed on a sound stage. please say something intelligent or shut the @#$%^ up!
@Dave
Why? Because sunlight couldn’t possibly be bouncing off of the bright white dirt immediately behind and next to the metal tire, lighting it up?
Light on the moon works exactly the same as light on the Earth, minus the glow of the sky or atmospheric effects like mist or wavy desert air. It bounces all over the place, just like it does here.
@hugo
(My comment was directed at Hugo, not Dave, sorry!)
@hugo, @dave
Nothing even as mysterious as the light being reflected around. Look at the line of the wheel vs. the line of the body. The front of the wheel is turned in toward the body, so that the back edge of the wheel is turned toward us–and the light–not parallel with the back of the LRV. (Maybe to make it easier to work on the thing?)
Yeah, and with a decent high powered telescope on a clear night you can actually see all the fake rover tracks that we planted on the moon surface for all the fake moon landings that we faked over and over just to cover our tracks and prove that it was all for real…. and not fake.
Too cool. Thanks for the link. Very informative.
But what does all of this have to do with Michael Jackson?
Oh, yeah. Moonwalk.
@Donovan
Luckily, it wasn’t up to you to land it.
@Donovan
haha really? how much do you think a 200 lb vehicle weighs on the moon? NASA probably figured they would need to balance it too, but who knows…they could just be bad story tellers
what’s the use of a mudguard on the moon??
@isi
Just a guess, but probably to prevent dust or small rocks from getting thrown up and into the equipment at the back of the rover. The wire mesh tires are, at least to some extent, made for grip and must therefore be able to sling a considerable amount of dust around (As I believe is visible in some of the “fake” footage taken in the “sound studio”…)
@steven
You’re an idiot.
@no
are you sure it’s a short circuit? i heard that hes lost a safety pin required to activate the thing and the pen fits.
Dude! The moon landing was totally staged, Everyone knows they filmed it on Mars. >:)
There’s no telescope either on Earth or in our orbit that can resolve those things. Only recently did we get a robotic imager to the Moon that could actually image Apollo’s landing site, lunar rover tracks, etc.
This is a subtler one.
@Blacktape
I thought Mars was a hoax and that it was really a big goiter that flew into outer space and got stuck there. Just ask Bart Sibrel, he’s a reliable source… (NOT)
“I’m told it’s actually easier than a night carrier landing….”
Oh, hell. What ain’t??
Night carrier landing while pissed drunk.
Nobody had the guts, yet. Or not recorded at least.
Mach -1 flyby past the Air Boss was accomplished on movie, but nobody ever tried night carrier landing while boozed, not even on comedy. Again not to interwebs notice.
There are rumors that some Astronauts took off in the Shuttle while s***faced, though. I know I would if I was strapped to a controlled small-nuclear-blast amount of fuel.
On the other hand, Navy pilots train so hard that they outta be able to do it, red-nosed or not.
Now, that other kludge, the *air filter* is also here on this site, somewhere. It was linked it to a site that contained reports of Astronauts using duct tape practically everywhere.
From removing moon dust, so a second piece of tape would stick, to anchoring loose food bags inside the ship, they used it plenty of times. It was included on their carry-on bags, and explicitly included in the hand luggage instructions, after they found plenty of uses for it on the previous occasions. It was then mandatory to carry a 25ft roll of tape along.
Now, that fender-map is in a museum, with good reason. I vote for a permanent list of EPIC KLUDGES.
1- Apolo-13 air filter. Both real and fictional.
2- Alien 8th passenger’s flamethrower, grenade launcher, automatic rifle, all rolled into one with duct tape. Fictional, of course. But it could be real too.
3- Behind Enemy Lines. Re-activating the homing beacon on your ejected seat, and only you can do it? FTW. Fictional. Probably real, ask the Navy.
4- Rambo, a red hot knife (not), a burning stick, and the contents of a 7.62mm NATO round. Cauterizing FTW. Fictional.
5- Myles Dyson, Terminator 2. Complete bandage of bullet wound using just Dyson’s clothes and a towel (perhaps? what else?)
keep going.
Let’s see any of planetbound kludges do better than that!
Assume nothing! Expect anything!
“We’ve got to find a way to make this … fit into the for this … using nothing but that”