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Can guarentee there is a whole lot more than just beer involved here. A fair amount of stupidity and ignorance of the laws of electricity had to also be involved.
hi…i don’t know how much you know about the human body, or how electricity travels through water, but YES, in a way you’re right. if there were no people in that pool and it was completely pure, distilled water, then you are correct, no one would get hurt. Because water is an INSULATOR. however, as soon as someone gets into that pool of pure, distilled water, the salts from their skin mix with the water, creating a CONDUCTOR. So, yeah…everyone in that pool would (rightfully) die.
Volts cant kill, its the amp that kills. 15 – 20 Amps can definitely kill a human, 100 mA is enough to stop a human`s heart. Most outlets in a house are 20 Amps or higher, especially one that is outdoors.
Also, almost all pool water has chlorine in it which is a good conductor of electricity. They gonna fry.
Actually, they cant be shocked because for electricity to flow, it goes from SOURCE to GROUND. so unless the pump was grounded, the only thing they would have to worry about would be grabbing the power strip, because electricity will only follow the easiest and shortest path. those power strips are grounded.
Best part of it, the power strip is one of the european ones (240volts instead of 120), and yes I know that its the amperage that kills ya, but when you are the ground, it doesnt really matter
So, yes, stupidity on a massively deliberate scale and therefore probably and hopefully a set-up/hoax. Allowing all that, however, it occurs to me that if the water in the pool were exceptionally pure, and all the bathers and their clothes were meticulously cleaned before entering the water, it might be possible to survive such a stunt with live power, since it is ionized impurities that allow water to be conductive and present an electrical hazard. Is that correct? I mean, just as a theoretical point.
yes – ‘pure’ water won’t really conduct electricity – but the dissolved minerals found in that pool water (CO2 from the air, probably Chlorine, other minerals from the pipes / hose, sweat / whatnot from the swimmers bodies etc.) will almost certainly make it conductive enough to endanger their lives.
Only swimming in really freshly distilled water could save you by not being conductive enough.
Even if everyone was meticulously cleaned, there would still be skin flakage which would add conductivity to the pool. The test would also have to be conducted in air with no ionic particles as surface water reacts slightly and slowly with air…
It’s pretty much like how people don’t die if they drop an electrical device in the bathtub with themselves. I always take electrical things into the bathtub with me because I know it’s completely safe to blow dry my hair while I’m relaxing in the bath. /sarcasm
A tiny little bit of physics and chemistry knowledge can be dangerous. As other posters have stated, no, if they’re in a pool full of absolutely pure water it might be ok… but chances are, that water is plenty conductive since it came from a garden hose drawing tap water.
To all other intelligent people:
They are some pupils of a higher school here in northern Germany, near where i live.
They had isolated AC from a Generator, so the only risk was to kill the cords by electrolytic effects.
And they did use it to cook some meat while standing around the table.
Obviously the white cord is just a cheap, not protected type and almost 100% wet from the inside, but no one felt anything. Nor did anybody die.
Maybe just luck…
Dr. No
Cut to…Bathroom, interior. The fight ensues, and Bond finally knocks the Soviet agent into a bathtub filled with water. Quickly, he grabs the electric fan nearby, and while still plugged into the socket, throws it into the tub with the agent.
Special effect: high-voltage electricity conducted by water electrocuting man in tub.
Bond: “Shocking”
SMR,
No, that is NOT right as a theoretical point. Electricity doesn’t care about “clean-ness” of water or bodies. Whoever told you that is wrong and you should assume that everything else coming from someone that clueless is wrong, too. Electricity is DANGEROUS, no matter what.
Ron
No, idiot. Ur Just paranoid. actually it is perfectly safe to generate static electricity and shock yourself with it. It can get up to startlingly high voltages, Ive got it up to 50,000. Also, there is conductivity issues with what you said. Earn a degree in EE and then come back.
Now, the beer is German (Krombacher is the one I can make out), so we’re in the EU somewhere.
Water being a pretty toss conductor, the engineered earth would win easily in a best-path-to-earth contest, and the breaker would go before these beer swilling types were turned to wurst.
Taking as a given some half decent insulation and that they actually plugged this get-up in; a ground fault circuit breaker would make this reasonably safe. (RCD/RCBO protection required on this fair continent)
So the question is: Are these people idiots; or are they engineers (they look like it) fully aware of the situation and possessed of an admirable confidence in their work / existing electrical safety standards?
I’d join them for a dip, these guys are alright with me.
Nothing would happen. A bird can sit on a 100 thousand volt line and not have any problem until (if it was big enough) it took off and one of it’s wings touched something else conductive. There is no conductive “reason” for electricity to flow through these guy’s bodies. The path of least resistance is NOT through their flesh.
Unfortunately what we see here will be attempted by others less “knowledgable” with horrific results…We already have too many people that lack the “common sense” gene
That big orange cord looks like its got a GFCI box. If there’s a ground fault, its gonna cut off the power immediately. They might get a tingle before it trips the GFCI, but probably won’t get hurt or die.
KFunk: you are absolutely right. Judging by the electric socket, this photo seems to be taken in Germany. I live in Europe (sorry for my not so good English by the way). All houses that have been built/redone in past few years have the earth-leakage breaker built in the house circuit breaker box. The situation on the photo looks dangerous, but I guess there are absolutely no health risks whatsoever.
Looking at the plug being used with the grill, I would guess they are using a European ungrounded AC circuit. This means two 240v charged lines coming in to the power strip with alternating polarity that cycle at a rate of 50Hz. Given the volume of the water, the time required to fill the pool, the surrounding atmosphere, the people in the pool, the make up of the vinyl, and the table in the pool I extremely doubt the purity of the water. If water were to get into the power strip it would short the two sides together allowing current to flow without resistance between the two sides of the circuit. As long as there is a decent circuit breaker or GFCI in the circuit then the current flow will only last for a fraction of a second. Even given the reduced resistance of wet skin I doubt the jolt from the circuit, before it trips, will be enough to cause cardiac arrest, though it may be enough to get a decent muscle spasm. The point where the concern comes in is if there isn’t some kind of circuit breaker on the circuit. Then the participants will get the full joy of the experience until the circuit melts due to heat build up. It may not kill the man standing in the pool as he may thrash out of the pool, but the man in the pool up to his chest will most assuredly die. Another point to consider is whether the water in the pool is grounded or not. As long as the water in the pool is ungrounded then the people in the pool may have nothing to worry with. Yet if the charge remains for more than a fraction of a second the pool may ground itself through capacitance by using the vinyl bottom as a dielectric. All this winds up meaning is either these guys are too smart or too dumb for their own good.
But you dont know the thickness…. ah. You are making mewant to build capacitors… *stoopid leyden jars… stoopid secondary…. stoopid primary… WORK U DAM SGTC!!!!*
I work with electricians on a daily basis. No electrician would ever trust his GFCI or circuit breaker as his only layer of protection. Both are backup safety devices, and NOT primary devices. For those of you posting that the individuals are engineers and know what they are doing, I have to say no. GFCI’s have been known to fail. So have circuit breakers. These gentlemen are idiots in my book. For those of you who personally know these individuals, please convey my contempt.
Although this is a very stupid idea, it might be less dangerous as it looks like:
1. It looks like none of the guys is grounded.
2. Normal drinking water conducts electricity very bad, unless you add more minerals f.e. some spoons of salt.
First: A circuit breaker will not prevent electrocution. A circuit breaker trips at 13A (Europe) or 15 or 20A (North America). It takes 20mA to kill you. Unless they filled the pool with seawater, it will not conduct anywhere near 13A! Circuit breakers are for preventing electrical fires, not electrocutions! Ditto for fuses!
Second: A little terminology.
RCD= residual current device (Europe)
GFCI= ground fault circuit interruptor (North America)
Different names, same device. Or is it? American GFCIs trip at 6mA, well below the “kill” value noted above. Most European RCDs trip at higher values, so they are not for electrocution prevention. By whichever name, the technology has a non-zero failure rate. I trust it to protect me in my everyday work, but I don’t feel that it gives me a license to be stupid.
Third: European “ungrounded systems”.
They ain’t no such thing.
European term: earthing
American term: grounding
You might be thinking of the TT grounding system, where there is no metallic current path between the neutral and the house grounding electrode. This is NOT the same as an ungrounded system!!! A TT system will have a 30mA RCD installed at the main breaker (or a relay on older houses). Just because you have a TT system does not mean you can be cavalier about your body becoming a path to ground! It is also worth noting that TT systems are not universal in Europe. They are common in some countries and rare to non-existent in others. They don’t exist in North America.
I would suggest that you re-read Kirchoff’s Current Law. Or, if you are unfamiliar with Kirchoff’s Current Law, you might do well to refrain from advising others on electrical safety.
If anything in that pool is grounded, so are the guys in it, for the purposes of making sure nobody’s heart stops.
yaktx :
OK, let’s clarify a few things.
First: A circuit breaker will not prevent electrocution. A circuit breaker trips at 13A (Europe) or 15 or 20A (North America). It takes 20mA to kill you. Unless they filled the pool with seawater, it will not conduct anywhere near 13A! Circuit breakers are for preventing electrical fires, not electrocutions! Ditto for fuses!
Second: A little terminology.
RCD= residual current device (Europe)
GFCI= ground fault circuit interruptor (North America)
Different names, same device. Or is it? American GFCIs trip at 6mA, well below the “kill” value noted above. Most European RCDs trip at higher values, so they are not for electrocution prevention. By whichever name, the technology has a non-zero failure rate. I trust it to protect me in my everyday work, but I don’t feel that it gives me a license to be stupid.
Third: European “ungrounded systems”.
They ain’t no such thing.
European term: earthing
American term: grounding
You might be thinking of the TT grounding system, where there is no metallic current path between the neutral and the house grounding electrode. This is NOT the same as an ungrounded system!!! A TT system will have a 30mA RCD installed at the main breaker (or a relay on older houses). Just because you have a TT system does not mean you can be cavalier about your body becoming a path to ground! It is also worth noting that TT systems are not universal in Europe. They are common in some countries and rare to non-existent in others. They don’t exist in North America.
But then again it’s only Norway and Albania who stil has TT systems!
Now i realize that the simpson are not faraway from the reality. North americans and specially the ones from the states are mental retarded . I guess they eat a lot of Mc Donalds and crappy food and that’s why they cannot think properly
Pretty sure these guys are European Claudio. Shut your face. Yes, Americans are dumb, but they are not any dumber than any other country’s inhabitants. They are actually, for the most part, a little less handicapped.
The rules change when water or conductive earth is involved. If, say, the “hot” contacted the water where the griddle is, and the “neutral” made contact at the pool edge, electricity could take any of a potentially infinite number of paths between the points. Same thing if there’s a pinhole leak at the bottom of the pool contacting the ground. And if one’s body parts are across a difference of potential, the body becomes a path as well. It’s the same thing that causes “unexplained” cattle deaths when a rural distribution line is improperly grounded.
A side note: Birds do not sit on lines above 50kV or so. Although there is no path for current, the voltage phenomena (corona, capacitance, etc.) at those levels make for an unpleasant and possibly life-threatening shock even if only one wire is touched. If you watch those Discovery Channel style shows where they work on 500kV lines live, you will notice anyone contacting the line wearing a metallic bodysuit, and “bonding on” to the line with a rod and clamp before actually getting on the line from the helicopter or cherry picker.
@germanguy
salt.. like on your skin? and all the dust and dross in teh air outside?
as soon as that sandal tips sideways..theres gonnabe a loud Krak! and two dead morons
@Erik Wow. Dude. Seriously. Get a hobby. Learn about weekends from a union friend. Get laid. Anything. If it weren’t WTF!?! moronic, it wouldn’t be funny. Look a little closer. It looks like a European plug. That means 220. Let’s do the math. (220V X 3 Dumbasses) + water. Looks like it comes out to about six fried testicles, and zero brain cells damaged in the deaths.
That has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Bags of hammers, boxes of hair, and doorknobs on beaded curtains have NOTHING on these brainiacs. For the love of god somebody knock that powerstrip under and fry these wastes of flesh before they contaminate our genes FURTHER…
@WTF
Hmm. Before I comment about somebody’s intelligence, I would check my spelling first. That’s really the only thing here that puts me off as a man. Just saying.
I have to say, there isn’t much of a difference between American electricity and other electricity, it still loves water and will incapacitate anyone standing in said water. And as far as I’ve heard, it doesn’t matter where it’s made, there are no waterproof electrical strips.
Sean Michael Ragan :
Allowing all that, however, it occurs to me that if the water in the pool were exceptionally pure, and all the bathers and their clothes were meticulously cleaned before entering the water, it might be possible to survive such a stunt with live power, since it is ionized impurities that allow water to be conductive and present an electrical hazard. Is that correct? I mean, just as a theoretical point.
It would be correct if not for the fact that water molecule is very much polar. It will dissociate other molecules into ions. So water stays foreign-ion-free (it self dissociates, too, IIRC) only until you dunk something unkosher in it. Metals are very much unkosher in that sense, especially with electric field present, although arguably it’s AC so doesn’t work as well as DC would. There’s no way for you to go into the water and the water remain “ion-free” for long. Your body is full of little holes that will happily dump saline into said water, etc.
NEWS FLASH- 3 Men Found Electrocuted In Backyard Inflatable Pool Yesterday: Neigbor reports last thing she heard was “Hey, come on in and have a beer. Nah, It’s totally safe.”
LOL yea. I use a CRT tvs capacitative quality when foil is placed on it, just for fun, I go and touch the sparks. when i dont hold the TV wire, it just makes me spaz a bit and yea. If I hold the foil fully, and the wire fully with my other hand, and pull the plug, it arcs to ground and then….. owie. Hey do you own a Tesla Coil?
are those flip flops
..yup :/
This is actually a set-up. It used to propagate “safe electronics use”. An ad from the company Eneco.
all it does to me is give me ideas.
suicide express
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Imagine what that Obituary will say…..
i hope they died!
Oh no he di-ent!!!
Gorgeous. Close to Darwin Awards!
Can guarentee there is a whole lot more than just beer involved here. A fair amount of stupidity and ignorance of the laws of electricity had to also be involved.
There, I failblogged it.
They actually wouldn’t get shocked if the plug went under unless there was salt in the water
hi…i don’t know how much you know about the human body, or how electricity travels through water, but YES, in a way you’re right. if there were no people in that pool and it was completely pure, distilled water, then you are correct, no one would get hurt. Because water is an INSULATOR. however, as soon as someone gets into that pool of pure, distilled water, the salts from their skin mix with the water, creating a CONDUCTOR. So, yeah…everyone in that pool would (rightfully) die.
its depend on how strong the electrictal voltage is.
Volts cant kill, its the amp that kills. 15 – 20 Amps can definitely kill a human, 100 mA is enough to stop a human`s heart. Most outlets in a house are 20 Amps or higher, especially one that is outdoors.
Also, almost all pool water has chlorine in it which is a good conductor of electricity. They gonna fry.
Not exactly. Amperes can stop your heart, while volts fry your body
Amperes: electrons that goes trought a circuit per second
Volt: Energy per electron
120 volts is far from enough to literally “fry” organic tissues.
Therefore, you are half right: Amperes do kill, but they do not fry people
Those are European plugs and are 220 V
Actually, it is 230V in most european countries – such as in the netherlands, where the picture was taken.
Btw. allready 30mA can stop a humans heart beating.
Actually, they cant be shocked because for electricity to flow, it goes from SOURCE to GROUND. so unless the pump was grounded, the only thing they would have to worry about would be grabbing the power strip, because electricity will only follow the easiest and shortest path. those power strips are grounded.
Best part of it, the power strip is one of the european ones (240volts instead of 120), and yes I know that its the amperage that kills ya, but when you are the ground, it doesnt really matter
Canonball!!!
So, yes, stupidity on a massively deliberate scale and therefore probably and hopefully a set-up/hoax. Allowing all that, however, it occurs to me that if the water in the pool were exceptionally pure, and all the bathers and their clothes were meticulously cleaned before entering the water, it might be possible to survive such a stunt with live power, since it is ionized impurities that allow water to be conductive and present an electrical hazard. Is that correct? I mean, just as a theoretical point.
So long as nobody pees in the pool
He He The law of natural selection at work.
This was on failblog months ago. Can we make an attempt to get some original stuff here?
What a toolbag.
@CaptainMolo
actually, that’s “salt or any other ionized impurities”, of which the chances are pretty good
yes – ‘pure’ water won’t really conduct electricity – but the dissolved minerals found in that pool water (CO2 from the air, probably Chlorine, other minerals from the pipes / hose, sweat / whatnot from the swimmers bodies etc.) will almost certainly make it conductive enough to endanger their lives.
Only swimming in really freshly distilled water could save you by not being conductive enough.
Unless you pee…….
@Karma
It wasn’t even original when it was on Failblog.
If you look closely to the right, that’s Michael Phelps’ hand. Just kidding.
Purified water maybe
i dunno what will my “safety first” hubby say if he sees this pic…
@Sean Michael Ragan
Even if everyone was meticulously cleaned, there would still be skin flakage which would add conductivity to the pool. The test would also have to be conducted in air with no ionic particles as surface water reacts slightly and slowly with air…
Every time I see this pic I get the jibblies. It may be staged but I know soooooo many people who would think that’s the epitome of ingeniousness.
WTF!?
wow I really hope they didn’t actually have that plugged up…that is just dumb…but a really funny picture…hahahahaha
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no doubt encouraged by their wives!
Maybe these guys had a high factor sun protection applied and did a practical test if this would be good against electricity too.
@CaptainMolo Exactly!
It’s pretty much like how people don’t die if they drop an electrical device in the bathtub with themselves. I always take electrical things into the bathtub with me because I know it’s completely safe to blow dry my hair while I’m relaxing in the bath. /sarcasm
A tiny little bit of physics and chemistry knowledge can be dangerous. As other posters have stated, no, if they’re in a pool full of absolutely pure water it might be ok… but chances are, that water is plenty conductive since it came from a garden hose drawing tap water.
I hope that’s a gag, because that’s just terrifying.
@Merty:
This is not an Ad.
To all other intelligent people:
They are some pupils of a higher school here in northern Germany, near where i live.
They had isolated AC from a Generator, so the only risk was to kill the cords by electrolytic effects.
And they did use it to cook some meat while standing around the table.
Obviously the white cord is just a cheap, not protected type and almost 100% wet from the inside, but no one felt anything. Nor did anybody die.
Maybe just luck…
Don’t make waves… don’t make waves…
Dr. No
Cut to…Bathroom, interior. The fight ensues, and Bond finally knocks the Soviet agent into a bathtub filled with water. Quickly, he grabs the electric fan nearby, and while still plugged into the socket, throws it into the tub with the agent.
Special effect: high-voltage electricity conducted by water electrocuting man in tub.
Bond: “Shocking”
Ideal for mothers-in-law
Believe it or not, I know these guys personally and yes this did really happen. No, I wasn’t there.
SMR,
No, that is NOT right as a theoretical point. Electricity doesn’t care about “clean-ness” of water or bodies. Whoever told you that is wrong and you should assume that everything else coming from someone that clueless is wrong, too. Electricity is DANGEROUS, no matter what.
Ron
@Sean Michael Ragan
No, idiot. Ur Just paranoid. actually it is perfectly safe to generate static electricity and shock yourself with it. It can get up to startlingly high voltages, Ive got it up to 50,000. Also, there is conductivity issues with what you said. Earn a degree in EE and then come back.
Only in Australia…
Makes you proud.
What is this about?
Pah! Safe as houses, you bunch of hand-wringers.
Now, the beer is German (Krombacher is the one I can make out), so we’re in the EU somewhere.
Water being a pretty toss conductor, the engineered earth would win easily in a best-path-to-earth contest, and the breaker would go before these beer swilling types were turned to wurst.
Taking as a given some half decent insulation and that they actually plugged this get-up in; a ground fault circuit breaker would make this reasonably safe. (RCD/RCBO protection required on this fair continent)
So the question is: Are these people idiots; or are they engineers (they look like it) fully aware of the situation and possessed of an admirable confidence in their work / existing electrical safety standards?
I’d join them for a dip, these guys are alright with me.
@James
Yes yes they are
Nothing would happen. A bird can sit on a 100 thousand volt line and not have any problem until (if it was big enough) it took off and one of it’s wings touched something else conductive. There is no conductive “reason” for electricity to flow through these guy’s bodies. The path of least resistance is NOT through their flesh.
That’s okay once they turn it on no more worries. They will have “fixed” the gene pool problem.
Unfortunately what we see here will be attempted by others less “knowledgable” with horrific results…We already have too many people that lack the “common sense” gene
@Kokokil
Ideal for neighborhood brats as well.
@Tom
Indeed it does.
That big orange cord looks like its got a GFCI box. If there’s a ground fault, its gonna cut off the power immediately. They might get a tingle before it trips the GFCI, but probably won’t get hurt or die.
@Sean Michael Ragan
do you normally keep deionozied water at home? lol.
KFunk: you are absolutely right. Judging by the electric socket, this photo seems to be taken in Germany. I live in Europe (sorry for my not so good English by the way). All houses that have been built/redone in past few years have the earth-leakage breaker built in the house circuit breaker box. The situation on the photo looks dangerous, but I guess there are absolutely no health risks whatsoever.
Looking at the plug being used with the grill, I would guess they are using a European ungrounded AC circuit. This means two 240v charged lines coming in to the power strip with alternating polarity that cycle at a rate of 50Hz. Given the volume of the water, the time required to fill the pool, the surrounding atmosphere, the people in the pool, the make up of the vinyl, and the table in the pool I extremely doubt the purity of the water. If water were to get into the power strip it would short the two sides together allowing current to flow without resistance between the two sides of the circuit. As long as there is a decent circuit breaker or GFCI in the circuit then the current flow will only last for a fraction of a second. Even given the reduced resistance of wet skin I doubt the jolt from the circuit, before it trips, will be enough to cause cardiac arrest, though it may be enough to get a decent muscle spasm. The point where the concern comes in is if there isn’t some kind of circuit breaker on the circuit. Then the participants will get the full joy of the experience until the circuit melts due to heat build up. It may not kill the man standing in the pool as he may thrash out of the pool, but the man in the pool up to his chest will most assuredly die. Another point to consider is whether the water in the pool is grounded or not. As long as the water in the pool is ungrounded then the people in the pool may have nothing to worry with. Yet if the charge remains for more than a fraction of a second the pool may ground itself through capacitance by using the vinyl bottom as a dielectric. All this winds up meaning is either these guys are too smart or too dumb for their own good.
But you dont know the thickness…. ah. You are making mewant to build capacitors… *stoopid leyden jars… stoopid secondary…. stoopid primary… WORK U DAM SGTC!!!!*
the beer on the table in the middle of the pool explains the whole logic in this idea… hahahaha buncha morons!
That is just plain stupid!
I work with electricians on a daily basis. No electrician would ever trust his GFCI or circuit breaker as his only layer of protection. Both are backup safety devices, and NOT primary devices. For those of you posting that the individuals are engineers and know what they are doing, I have to say no. GFCI’s have been known to fail. So have circuit breakers. These gentlemen are idiots in my book. For those of you who personally know these individuals, please convey my contempt.
omg
Please let it be Photoshopped…
Future Darwin Award winners?
Good
Honestly…it’s probably not even switch on
Although this is a very stupid idea, it might be less dangerous as it looks like:
1. It looks like none of the guys is grounded.
2. Normal drinking water conducts electricity very bad, unless you add more minerals f.e. some spoons of salt.
Its a freekin joke you dingalings.
WHAT THE EFF
i bet it wasn’t even plugged in.
did they die?
OK, let’s clarify a few things.
First: A circuit breaker will not prevent electrocution. A circuit breaker trips at 13A (Europe) or 15 or 20A (North America). It takes 20mA to kill you. Unless they filled the pool with seawater, it will not conduct anywhere near 13A! Circuit breakers are for preventing electrical fires, not electrocutions! Ditto for fuses!
Second: A little terminology.
RCD= residual current device (Europe)
GFCI= ground fault circuit interruptor (North America)
Different names, same device. Or is it? American GFCIs trip at 6mA, well below the “kill” value noted above. Most European RCDs trip at higher values, so they are not for electrocution prevention. By whichever name, the technology has a non-zero failure rate. I trust it to protect me in my everyday work, but I don’t feel that it gives me a license to be stupid.
Third: European “ungrounded systems”.
They ain’t no such thing.
European term: earthing
American term: grounding
You might be thinking of the TT grounding system, where there is no metallic current path between the neutral and the house grounding electrode. This is NOT the same as an ungrounded system!!! A TT system will have a 30mA RCD installed at the main breaker (or a relay on older houses). Just because you have a TT system does not mean you can be cavalier about your body becoming a path to ground! It is also worth noting that TT systems are not universal in Europe. They are common in some countries and rare to non-existent in others. They don’t exist in North America.
Stu: Don’t you mean, what the EMF?
I would suggest that you re-read Kirchoff’s Current Law. Or, if you are unfamiliar with Kirchoff’s Current Law, you might do well to refrain from advising others on electrical safety.
If anything in that pool is grounded, so are the guys in it, for the purposes of making sure nobody’s heart stops.
this is from a safety poster by the government, its a fake picture
Well at least they have beer.
@yaktx
But then again it’s only Norway and Albania who stil has TT systems!
Now i realize that the simpson are not faraway from the reality. North americans and specially the ones from the states are mental retarded . I guess they eat a lot of Mc Donalds and crappy food and that’s why they cannot think properly
At least we can use proper grammar.
its from a german LAN-party, this guys did it for the lulz. heres the whole set: http://www.linuxno.de/_data/gallery/nwl7/
Pretty sure these guys are European Claudio. Shut your face. Yes, Americans are dumb, but they are not any dumber than any other country’s inhabitants. They are actually, for the most part, a little less handicapped.
@Waldobaby
The rules change when water or conductive earth is involved. If, say, the “hot” contacted the water where the griddle is, and the “neutral” made contact at the pool edge, electricity could take any of a potentially infinite number of paths between the points. Same thing if there’s a pinhole leak at the bottom of the pool contacting the ground. And if one’s body parts are across a difference of potential, the body becomes a path as well. It’s the same thing that causes “unexplained” cattle deaths when a rural distribution line is improperly grounded.
A side note: Birds do not sit on lines above 50kV or so. Although there is no path for current, the voltage phenomena (corona, capacitance, etc.) at those levels make for an unpleasant and possibly life-threatening shock even if only one wire is touched. If you watch those Discovery Channel style shows where they work on 500kV lines live, you will notice anyone contacting the line wearing a metallic bodysuit, and “bonding on” to the line with a rod and clamp before actually getting on the line from the helicopter or cherry picker.
FARADAY SUITS FTWWWWW!!!!!!! I want one so badly… and a Tesla COil.
Thanks that explains it, linux users.. hahahahhaha
And my husband doesn’t like it when I set the hair dryer down (running) beside the sink when the water is OFF. Jeez
@george h amundsen III
That’s hilarious – I love it!!
@trojanfoe well now that just depends how much they plug in…
Aaaaz igen! Hülye állatjai!
That’s coooool! Dangerously stupid monkeys!!!
OMG thats brilliant
)))))))
I’d have to drink MORE than just beer to sit in a pool with an electrical wire.
@Alexander
But what if they pee in the pool? That changes the salt content.
@germanguy
salt.. like on your skin? and all the dust and dross in teh air outside?
as soon as that sandal tips sideways..theres gonnabe a loud Krak! and two dead morons
@Erik Wow. Dude. Seriously. Get a hobby. Learn about weekends from a union friend. Get laid. Anything. If it weren’t WTF!?! moronic, it wouldn’t be funny. Look a little closer. It looks like a European plug. That means 220. Let’s do the math. (220V X 3 Dumbasses) + water. Looks like it comes out to about six fried testicles, and zero brain cells damaged in the deaths.
Isolation transformer with an ungrounded load side, or a generator isolated from ground.
Not to mention they are too far away to get wacked with anything. The voltage is too low and the resistance is too high.
Even without the isolation it wouldn’t matter.
I would stand there dumping a pound of salt in the water just to freak the less than intelligent goobers out.
http://www.linuxno.de/_data/gallery/nwl7/
i see lots of windows screenshots…
/inb4rage.
puts new meaning to “DON’T MAKE WAVES!!!”
That has got to be the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Bags of hammers, boxes of hair, and doorknobs on beaded curtains have NOTHING on these brainiacs. For the love of god somebody knock that powerstrip under and fry these wastes of flesh before they contaminate our genes FURTHER…
Social Darwinism is at work.
Probably former Circuit City installers.
I don’t think it’s plugged in. I believe this is a hoax designed to illustrate the stupidity prevalent among German engineers.
and what was after the big wave?
:3 another one for the Darwin awards, they might win the golden Darwin x3 for this fail is made of win~
One cannonball away from disaster…
These guys are probably dead right now.
5 seconds after the photo the box enterde the water and all 3 of them elektricuted
what an insane stuped idiots
Welcome to this years Darwin award pool party!!
Opasno blya!!
I personaly dont see a problem here just this old dude pissing in the pool
@Claudio
Those aren’t American plugs, dumbass.
Not American plugs OR American beer.
@WTF
Hmm. Before I comment about somebody’s intelligence, I would check my spelling first. That’s really the only thing here that puts me off as a man. Just saying.
Shocking!
@CaptainMolo
O…k… not true, never EVER put electrical equipment in the water
I have to say, there isn’t much of a difference between American electricity and other electricity, it still loves water and will incapacitate anyone standing in said water. And as far as I’ve heard, it doesn’t matter where it’s made, there are no waterproof electrical strips.
Angie, I can’t believe you had English sun. Or were you all to blizzed to realize you were swimming in the English rain?
Aloha, Vann Slatter
And they’ll never die
It would be correct if not for the fact that water molecule is very much polar. It will dissociate other molecules into ions. So water stays foreign-ion-free (it self dissociates, too, IIRC) only until you dunk something unkosher in it. Metals are very much unkosher in that sense, especially with electric field present, although arguably it’s AC so doesn’t work as well as DC would. There’s no way for you to go into the water and the water remain “ion-free” for long. Your body is full of little holes that will happily dump saline into said water, etc.
oh my God…..this stuff is what gives to the Darwin Awards reason to exist!
are these idiots still alive??????????????????????????
I think the old guy in the back is happy that is life is about to end!
Proof that morons, alcohol, water and electricity don’t go well together
…either that or use the same language!
What I like best is that they obviously know water and electricity don’t mix, otherwise they wouldn’t have the flip-flops there.
low budget electroshock machine
it is… shocking
NEWS FLASH- 3 Men Found Electrocuted In Backyard Inflatable Pool Yesterday: Neigbor reports last thing she heard was “Hey, come on in and have a beer. Nah, It’s totally safe.”
the guy that sitting not only is stupid,but he’s letting water out of the pool! LOL
LOL yea. I use a CRT tvs capacitative quality when foil is placed on it, just for fun, I go and touch the sparks. when i dont hold the TV wire, it just makes me spaz a bit and yea. If I hold the foil fully, and the wire fully with my other hand, and pull the plug, it arcs to ground and then….. owie. Hey do you own a Tesla Coil?
i can imagine these guys arguing about which is deadlier, amps or volts, instead of saving these guys from their impending doom in the pool.
say hello to the personalized death trap.